Sept 3 2001

Schiller Institute Conference in Reston, Virginia

Dr. Stojadin Naumovski: Mr. LaRouche, Helga, everyone in this room, it is a special pleasure to address this audience that gave us such a warm welcome yesterday, as the Macedonian delegation, and I would start with a big thank you. However, it doesn’t make it any easier to talk to you after my Professor Oginar’s speech yesterday that got your standing ovation. I was his student so it is kind of hard to address you all, however I will do my best. There are so many issues that we would like to discuss, but the time is of essence so I will just narrow it to a couple of things.

We enjoyed Helga’s presentation this morning and I greatly appreciate all of the facts that were laid out. And I have heard that she is a great fan of Alexander the Great and we can recognize throughout the presentation, with all of the Silk Road and oasis and all that, so thank you for that too.

However, the question remains that Macedonia as you all know has been invaded by not only terrorists from Kosovo and Albania, but by NATO and it is in imminent danger of invasion: taking over not just a country, not just the territory, but the very Macedonian democracy and freewill of the people. As you all know, the stability of a country is not just the integrity of the territory or the boundaries, or lack or absence of military invasion, but yet it is a condition where all of the institutions of the country are performing, such as the president, the Prime Minister, the President of the Parliament, the military, the health care, the education, because institutions without integrity, in a word, you can trust, cannot lead a country anywhere, and that is applicable all over the world, including the United States. So we are facing a situation where all of those institutions are under the thumb of the European Union, NATO, and all of the thugs and terrorists in Macedonia. The question arises: What should we do about it? We have heard all of the statements by Mr. Robertson, Sir Lord Whatever Robertson, who is the head of NATO that either you sign that agreement or there will be a war. But what is this agreement? Have any of you read it? You can see it on papova_shopka.com or any other website, it is a shameful change of the entire Constitution that will take place eventually, if it is signed. It changes so many paragraphs and amendments that we could never allow in this country. So we breach one thing, we impose another, so Robertson’s statement was that either this will be signed or there will be a war. No one has a “Plan B”. However, we, the Macedonians and the Macedonian Diaspora, the leaders of whom are here have a,b,c the  whole alphabet...

However, what I would like to hear from you Mr. LaRouche with all of your knowledge and experience in international affairs, and Macedonian affairs I believe, what is your personal opinion of what we should do? As the Macedonian Diaspora, as Macedonians, and as the international community, if you want to save Macedonia, the motherland and fatherland of myself, Prof Oginar and our delegation, but of Alexander the Great as well. And I would appreciate your answer to that question. Thank you.

Lyndon LaRouche: The answer has to be a strategic question. Because what you have, is you have an imperial Anglo-American force, which Robertson represents, which is determined to use what remaining military capability exists, to destroy Macedonia, and to continue the bloodshed which has been conducted since 1992 in the Balkans. That’s the point.

            The purpose is to destroy the entire region. What they will probably do, is the next thing that they will come up with, with the Simeon in Bulgaria, they will come up with a so-called Greater Bulgaria and Greater Albania, and then they will have a war between those two. Now that they have the British royal family in office in Bulgaria. It’s obvious. So, the point is, that we have to stop the whole game. And the only way that you can fight the issue is to go at the game.

            The American, what used to be called the Special Warfare Division, is operating in the area and has been ever since the Yugoslav war, to build up, based on Albania, a bunch of drug running, terrorist operations who are trained as a military operation of the new style, of the special warfare type, which are being deployed! There is no such thing as an Albanian Army! There is a US-British backed operation. The United States is running the dirty part of the operation, inside the Albanian operation, and the British are running the cover operation from the standpoint of the overall operation inside Macedonia.

            First, if you don’t say that, if you don’t describe the issue, which we try to do with our publications – we should do more of this, because we are the only ones who are going to do it, maybe some friends of Macedonia will do it, but we have to take the lead and get this thing going. Because what we have to do is to say: “This must stop!”

            Now, Germany is very upset about this. …….

    Europe doesn’t want this thing. Continental Europe.

 Now, you also have to take another element of the context into view, that we are now having in Washington DC, the fourth stage of the fourth phase of new international terrorism. The first phase was the 1960’s, 1968, with the terrorist groups related to that, we had the crazy Weathermen group, which were not too serious, and other groups here in the United States. Europe was the center of it. You had the terrorism in Italy, and especially in Germany, with what became known as the Baader Meinhof gang. This stuff developed in the 1970s, and in the mid 70s you had the second wave. It started from France in about ’74 or ’75 in a big way in France around the so-called nuclear energy issue. This was the Baader-Meinhof gang, the second phase of that. This was spread into Italy, with the terrorist waves in Italy of the 1970s, which complemented those in France and in Germany. Then in the 1980s, you had the third wave of terrorism, especially concentrated in Germany, at Wackersdorf and so forth, where you had full-scale irregular warfare, deployed as full-scale warfare. It was deployed there. Now, in Seattle, we had a terrorist deployment, and this was a full-scale terrorist deployment. If you understand terrorism as special warfare, this was a terrorist, special warfare, full-scale deployment, based out of Canada into Seattle. Then they went through a second phase. The second phase was a meeting in Porto Allegre, Brazil, headed by Teddy Goldsmith, an old British intelligence hand. The third phase was a murderous riot in Genoa, Italy. The fourth phase is the biggest of all, so far, a planned terrorist upheaval in Washington, DC, which is now being deployed from centers in Virginia and Maryland. In other words, they have groups of terrorists that are sitting in Virginia and Maryland, including Loudoun County, from which they are to be deployed into Washington, DC to do dirty work. There is, visibly, no centralized capability of the type needed to deal with that kind of threat, from an intelligence standpoint, an organization. This group in Washington is tied to known terrorist organizations. These are not simply successor generations; there is an unbroken continuity of cadre connections among all successive generations. This interfaces the kind of Hell that is being stoked by the Israeli terror operations in the Middle East. This is being stoked and directed largely by the ETA, the Basque terrorist organization, which is one of the keys in the whole operation. And I could go through a long list of things that I know about this other stuff.

You have to look at what is being done in the Balkans, and what is being done in the Middle East in that context. Now, this is not a spontaneous terrorist organization. This is an international, strategic deployment of irregular warfare to destabilize civilization, with the intent of preventing the financial crisis from becoming the mobilization of a New Bretton Woods – which it would tend to be. Governments are bankrupt; they tend to want to survive. When nations agree and cooperate to survive, they will tend to go in that direction. That’s what this is. This is what it was from the beginning. Remember; go back to 1989, when the Wall came down in Germany – even before the Wall came down. The Thatcher Government in Britain said, “Kill ‘em! Germany must never be reunified. Germany must be crushed, right now!” Mitterand agreed. He said, “We will crush Germany, provided that you let us steal from the corpse.” Vernon Walters said no, and the US Government agreed, so they made a compromise, as I have described before. As I’ve said before, the Desert Storm and the Balkan War were organized, to do what? To prevent the reunification of Continental Europe in economic development, based on the collapse of the Wall. That operation has continued until the present day, and the same operation is now being escalated, as in Macedonia, as a continuation of that process. Who runs this? NATO. This is strategic warfare!

You hear this insane stuff about Donald Rumsfeld and the US military. What is Rumsfeld doing? He is shutting down the US military. Why is he shutting it down? Because the kind of warfare that they intend to use is of a different variety, it is irregular warfare. Now look, we KNOW, and I know from 1967 at least, that the deployment of terrorism into Italy, by what became the 1970s terrorism, the so-called Compass plot(?), the bombing of the Bologna station, all of these other things in Rome that happened there as terrorist operations, THESE WERE RUN THROUGH NATO. They were run through an operation that was originally set up with the United States government, as a stay behind operation, in case of a Communist take over of Italy. The stay behind operation, which had been sitting in place for a period of approximately 20 years, was suddenly activated to become an active operation. The resources of this stay behind network, suddenly reactivated from sitting in the scenes(?) was the basis for organizing the terrorist movement in Italy. And it was run out of NATO! As this new type of warfare. And that’s the way that this thing functions.

Now, if we are not able to say that, you don’t have a chance of winning the war. You have to be able to tell the truth! You can’t say, “Resist Evil.” As I said yesterday, in terms of strategic defense, the principle of strategy, in terms of military, or quasi-military conflict, the principle of strategy is strategic defense. As strategic defense was devised by Vauvon? For military policy. As strategic defense was defined by Lazar Carnot, for French policy, on the basis of the work of Vauvon -- because of a change in artillery which changed the rules of the game relative to Vauvon’s period, eh? As it was defined by Scharnhorst in Germany, and so forth. the principle of strategic defense.

Now, to have strategic defense, you have to get the enemy coming at you where you want him. To do that, you have to have a plan, as all plans of strategic defense, based on the truth. You cannot say, we have a problem with Robertson, that’s not the problem. The problem is that the active forces are coming from the United States, in part, through the Special Forces type of operation, running behind what was set up in Albania. This is where the attack comes from. So now the British come in and say with the Americans, “OK, you’ve got to concede to these invaders.” Yes, you have some people of Albanian extraction living in Macedonia, but that’s normal, that’s been going on for a long time. Why make a war about it now? These are invading forces who are stirring the whole thing up by well-known methods. So, therefore, we have to have a policy in which we trap them. How? By catching them and exposing them for what they are. The game is to bring down some governments. By exposing them in such a way as to bring THEM down. To create crises in the governments which are responsible for this. That’s how you deal with that kind of invasion. You don’t have the military forces to stop them. You may find that you have to fight anyway. But if you don’t have the military forces to win, you’ve got to outflank them, with strategic defense. You’ve got to aim to create the pressure on the governments, which are complicit in the operation, to make this thing so painful to them that they withdraw.

It is the only chance we have. And the financial crisis, the economic crisis, is an integral part of the operation. That’s my general strategic approach to the thing. There are of course other details, that are not necessary to discuss, but that’s the point.